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The Labour Leadership debacle

Ho-Hum
Labour divisions widen as anti-Corbyn leadership rivals turn on each other.



The Labour party is in tatters yet still attempts to crush the shards and splinters of its once great name.

If I was a Labour party member/supporter I'd be distraught.
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Percy
Do not believe the Tory press.Labour has its most members since the 40s and 50s.The cult of Jeremy has a million people who would come out on the streets if he asked them.He was at the Tolpuddle martyrs day yesterday and thousands turned out.That is what the beorgeoise are scared of.
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The Eagle has flown!

Angela eagle with grasping talons.




In the last two weeks Owen Smith has gone from someone who one MP described as "just playing games" to being the official challenger to Jeremy Corbyn.



Can he pull off a far bigger ask of actually beating him, and demolishing Mr Corbyn's mountain of membership support?

On his side is, finally perhaps, unity among the vast majority of Labour MPs and MEPs.


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Percy
Well the MEPs are irrelevant there are not many Tory ones but they are out of work in any case.Then in the last 2 days 100,000 have paid £25 to become registered voters to support Corbyn.This must show some commitment.This is class war more of the champagne millionaire turncoat socialists who have lost the last two elections or a new party dedicated to socialist policies at the moment a cult but maybe a religion with 600,000 members to whom JC as he is affectionately known can do no wrong.It is seen as a battle for the working class or a defeat for the non tax paying elite who keep the poor poor.
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Labour leadership candidate Owen Smith has been forced to deny accusations he has been in favour of privatising the NHS.



The row centers on a press release sent by Smith in 2005 in which he said “choice is a good thing” in the NHS - a term taken to mean increased private sector involvement.

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Percy
Up date 150,0000 new supporters registered for Corbyn in the last two days


https://corbynnews.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/owen-smith-accepted-60000-from.html#.V4-ptHg3tOI.facebook
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Percy
This post was updated on .
90 labour MPs look like they are ready to fall in line with Corbyn.They do not want to lose their jobs they can not do anything else.




https://www.facebook.com/RedLabour2016/videos/311707925832659/
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Although not in any way a Labour voter (nor a Tory or Lib Dem voter) I do in some ways find it desparang that what was once a political party that championed the masses gave us the NHS mass built decent social housing organised state control of public transport gave free university education and the chance of self improvement to working class folk who could not otherwise afford the opportunities reserved for a very undesearving so called upper class minority. No Labour has done a lot of great things in the past but in a reality that came to a head in the Brexit vote has for many years deserted its hardcore support in favour of a self serving elite. Sorry Percy but the reality is unless Corbyn stands down there will be a new opposition in this country or there will be two Labour parties.
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bellend
we need a left wing opposition party, not a tory light party, if there was such a party that would stand up for the real british and also be left wing it would have my vote.
If we learn from our mistakes, why aint I a genius, If you educate the masses where's the advantage for the few?

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Percy
There can not be two Labour parties the rebels could break away form a unity party but they would struggle for money or any sort of support mechanism no unions would back them the last split lead to the demise of most of those leaving and in the end the end of the liberals.
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Jeremy Corbyn set to ROMP to victory in Labour leadership battle whoever he faces despite MPs condemning him as an incompetent ‘narcissist’.

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The scum MP's wont purge the party of the filth Blairites but it looks like the membership will.... We are witnessing the death of New Labour and the toxic legacy of that filth human scum ball Blair....

Havering's angriest person...
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Percy
Yes if the momentum is kept up'No pun intended' and deselection takes place if even of just a few of the worst Blairites a popular party of more than half a million could make a considerable difference if only by nudging politics and the media a little further left.
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dalek1
Here's the problem for Labour.
The referendum split both parties and on face value the Tories have got it together much faster than Labour.
Labour have turned turtle as far as the EU were concerned except for a few principled MP's such as Dennis Skinner and Frank Field. Corbyn I'm sure is anti EU and as most of the Labour light as Bellers refer to them wanted to stay in the common market so naturally they turn on Corbyn.
Once the dust has finally settled it still leaves Labour with a problem.
How do you sell Corbyn to the British Public.
He comes across to me as throwback to the old Trots of the 70's and 80's and I'm sorry the British public are not buying it.
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bellend
corbyn, has no chance against the british press and the vested interests that keep the working classes working for peanuts. the poor working classes were persuaded to go to war against napoleon who was the only leader to give the working class a say in how the lives would be run. we still fall for the system.  
If we learn from our mistakes, why aint I a genius, If you educate the masses where's the advantage for the few?

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dalek1
In reply to this post by Mr. Angry....
In the cold light of day Mr Angry all Bliar achieved was negative.
He was without doubt the worst postwar PM we ever had with perhaps Heath Douglas-Home and Eden not far behind although they were short lived.
Looking at whats happened since Brown and Ed Miliband came and went and now Labour have lurched to the left due to the failings of the previous two.
Corbyn was a gamble and sorry but its backfiring big time.
Labour needs someone now who is pragmatic principled and is able to appeal to the whole of the party and to the electorate without ditching the principles Labour was founded on.
The only two who fitted that bill for me were John Smith and Denis Healy both great PM's we never had.
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Mr. Angry....
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Labour ditched the principles it was founded on in 1997 when that lying human scum Blair created New Labour... This toxic left over from the Blair era needs destroying.. That fucking lying war criminal Blair and his shite MP's need wiping of the face of this planet...

The Labour party need to re-elect Corbyn and tear itself in half then the human shite Blairites can fuck off to the Conservatives where they belong....

Havering's angriest person...
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bellend
if john smith had survived Britain would be a better place to live in.
If we learn from our mistakes, why aint I a genius, If you educate the masses where's the advantage for the few?

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Percy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36855873
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in 1981 a group of dissident Labour Party politicians, all Members of Parliament or former MPs: Roy Jenkins, David Owen, Bill Rodgers and Shirley Williams, who became known as the "Gang of Four", formed the SDP.

Labour was bisected BUT rose to glory again in 1997.  The SDP joined the Liberals and became diluted into a colour that looks like urine.

The precedent was set then of bust and boom for the Labour party.  Although the red flag is in a cadaverous state right now, it may well rise again like the phoenix.
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