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confused of hornchurch

No soaking 'till after the election.

Snub for Boris as May shelves decision on water cannon: Home Secretary refuses to sign off use of controversial machines until after the General Election
Boris Johnson spent £220,000 on buying three used water cannon last year
Said Home Office was 'highly likely' to approve their use, sparking a row
Decision seems to have backfired after Ms May refused to sign off on use

By Jack Doyle for the Daily Mail

Published: 03:16, 12 March 2015  | Updated: 08:31, 12 March 2015  

Theresa May has shelved a decision on whether water cannon can be used on the streets of Britain until after the election, in a major snub to Boris Johnson.

Mrs May has refused to sign off the controversial riot control machines despite pressure from the London mayor, who last year spent £220,000 buying three cannon for use in public order emergencies.

Home Office sources confirmed last night no ruling on permission would be made this side of the election. That means the machines will lay idle, in a potential embarrassment for the mayor.

Boris Johnson spent £220,000 last year buying three water cannon to use in public emergencies, such as the London riots, but Theresa May has today refused to approve their use (file image)
 
Boris Johnson spent £220,000 last year buying three water cannon to use in public emergencies, such as the London riots, but Theresa May has today refused to approve their use (file image)

Soon after buying the three German machines last year, Mr Johnson said it was ‘highly likely’ the Home Secretary would sign them off, adding: ‘My view is we need to get on and equip the police with the water cannon they need, or might need.’

But in the past she has expressed concerns about whether they fit with the British model of policing and is thought to have concerns about their safety.

The standoff over the issue cast light on the ongoing rivalry between the two, both of whom are seen as potential Tory leadership candidates should David Cameron lose the election and step down.

Mrs May's Home Office has been locked in a row with the London Mayor over the decision to buy the machines and whether they fit with UK policing

Last night City Hall sources insisted Mr Johnson had known about the timetable for some time and was ‘very relaxed’ about the delay.

A spokesman for the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime defended the decision to purchase the cannon, pointing towards support for them among Londoners.

He said: ‘Independent polling shows that the majority of Londoners support the police having water cannon at their disposal for use in exceptional circumstances.

'The Mayor has made his position clear and awaits the Home Secretary’s licensing decision.’

But critics of cannon warn that in incidents on the continent they have led to serious injury and even death.

In one case in Germany a man was blinded and in another a protester was stunned and then killed after being run over.

Water cannon have been used in Northern Ireland to quell public order incidents, but never on the UK mainland.

Calls for their introduction came during the 2011 riots and later student protests in the capital.

Last summer The Prime Minister’s spokesman also endorsed their use, saying the prime minister ‘supports’ the police’s application for water cannon.

Mrs May and Mr Johnson two regularly appear at or near the top of polls on who Tories would like as a future leader. She is known to regard the Mayor as a 'faintly ridiculous' figure.

At the time the mayor purchased the machines, he was warned it could be a waste of taxpayers’ money.

When Mr Johnson purchased the machines he said it was 'highly likely' the Home Secretary would sign off on their use, a political gamble that seems to have backfired
 
When Mr Johnson purchased the machines he said it was 'highly likely' the Home Secretary would sign off on their use, a political gamble that seems to have backfired

Mr Johnson has previously urged police to get 'medieval' on rioters, and said officers must never again be left powerless in the face of overwhelming violence like that seen during the riots.

But he stressed the chances of the machines being used in the capital, or other mainland cities, remained 'vanishingly rare'.

Police argue water cannon would be useful in a static confrontation where there is a need to create space between police lines and violent crowds.

They said it could have helped protect firefighters and paramedics after shops were set ablaze as rioting spread to Croydon in 2011.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2990915/Snub-Boris-shelves-decision-water-cannon-Home-Secretary-refuses-sign-use-controversial-machines-General-Election.html#ixzz3U9usLh6i 
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if the tories get in with their threatened austerities policies you can forget water cannons they'll need rubber bullet's and may be the picturesque sight of the 7th hussars charging down Whitehall with their sabres glinting in the sunlight.    
If we learn from our mistakes, why aint I a genius, If you educate the masses where's the advantage for the few?

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So where can Boris put his water cannon?
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confused of hornchurch

Ouch! They are a bit powerful for that, he may suffer internal injuries.
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Romfordian
Well he is already Brain damaged
Not a party activist but WAS a Labour supporter
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Ho-Hum
Water cannon gets people wet but never deters....Artillery cannon should do the trick though.  One warning shot and all will be sorted, guaranteed.

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Percy.
Surely what they have now is better .They have facial recognition and go round later and disappear the miscreants.
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confused of hornchurch

Water cannon for sale?  One owner, low mileage.


Theresa May Rules Out Water Cannon For Police

14:00, UK,  Wednesday 15 July 2015

Theresa May says she has decided not to authorise the use of water cannon by police in England and Wales.


The Home Secretary told MPs she was ruling out allowing forces to use the Ziegler Wasserwerfer 9000 after a thorough review.

Scotland Yard bought three of the water cannon second hand from German police last year at a cost of more than £200,000.

The decision is a blow for London Mayor Boris Johnson, who endorsed the purchase of the cannon even though they cannot be deployed without authorisation from the Home Office.



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confused of hornchurch

White Elephants 'not for sale'.

A source close to Mr Johnson told the BBC he was "disappointed".

He said the prime minister, the commissioner of the Met Police and the majority of Londoners supported the idea of having water cannon available.

According to the source, Mr Johnson said the police would continue to train on the three water cannon bought last year.

I may be confused but that sounds like bollox. What is the point of continued training if they can't be deployed and who's going to pay for it?
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the same people who will pay for the consultants and feasibility study for boris island
If we learn from our mistakes, why aint I a genius, If you educate the masses where's the advantage for the few?

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confused of hornchurch

I guess that's you and me?
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Romfordian
Borris and Nick Ferari both said they would be prepared to be hosed down by one Can i be the operator and use a full tank on them Both lying toads
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Percy.
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I think the problem can be cured by lowering the water pressure but adding luminous green dye to the water so any rioters can be picked up for days or months after the riots and dealt with.
“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.”




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No reward for pre-election loyalty.

Now it's open war: Furious Boris tells David Cameron to stop Osborne and May plotting to 'humiliate' him after he was blocked from using water cannon to control London riots
London Mayor Boris Johnson told PM to stop ministers 'humiliating him'
Claims leadership rivals Osborne and May are trying to wreck his chances
Last night as feud escalated he called on David Cameron to 'reign them in'
Home Secretary May blocked his bid to allow police to use water cannons

By Simon Walters Political Editor For The Mail On Sunday

Published: 22:01, 18 July 2015  | Updated: 00:01, 19 July 2015  
Tory unity was shattered last night after Boris Johnson told David Cameron to stop George Osborne and Theresa May plotting to wreck his chances of becoming Prime Minister.

In an explosive intervention, the London Mayor claimed Mr Osborne and Mrs May, his Conservative leadership rivals, are trying to ‘humiliate’ him to destroy his credibility – and has called on Mr Cameron to ‘rein them in’.

Mr Johnson’s allies claim the Prime Minister has ‘betrayed’ the loyal support he provided during the General Election campaign.


The feud erupted after Home Secretary May blocked London Mayor Boris Johnson’s (pictured left) bid to allow police in the capital to use water cannon to control riots - he has now called upon the PM to intervene

The feud erupted after Mrs May, the Home Secretary, blocked Mr Johnson’s bid to allow London police to use water cannon to control riots.

Mr Johnson was not told about her decision until moments before she made a statement to MPs on Wednesday.

Mr Johnson claims it is part of a deliberate bid, masterminded by the Chancellor, supported by Mrs May and condoned by the Prime Minister, to stop him winning the Tory crown when Mr Cameron resigns before the next Election.

Mr Johnson told a close friend: ‘They are trying to cut me down to size and humiliate me. The instigators are Osborne and May, but Cameron does nothing to rein them in.

'I have done everything they asked of me before the Election and afterwards and they treat me like this.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3166615/Furious-Boris-tells-Cameron-stop-Osborne-humiliating-him.html#ixzz3gKdm1eSy 
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Has she sabotaged the batteries? Another Boris fail?

'Eco-friendly' Routemasters running on diesel only thanks to battery problems

Lizzie Edmonds  

Published: 20 July 2015
Updated: 10:19, 20 July 2015


A number of Boris Johnson’s new Routemaster hybrid buses have suffered battery malfunctions, it has been revealed.
 

The vehicles, of which there are about 800 in service in the capital, have hybrid engines and are only supposed to use diesel when the battery runs out.

But Transport for London has now confirmed power supplies on up to 80 of the buses have had to be mended or replaced.

It means the £354,000 buses, said to be the most environmentally friendly of their kind, are pumping more pollutants into the atmosphere.

Last week new research found that air pollution was responsible for as many as 10,000 deaths in the capital every year - thousands more than previously thought.

Researchers blamed the high toll on nitrogen dioxide, which is largely linked to diesel fumes.

Transport journalist Christian Wolmar, who is seeking the Labour nomination for London mayor, told the BBC: “This bus is a ridiculous throw back. It has been a total waste of money. It’s a Boris failure.”
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