Is Socialism Really Nazism

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Is Socialism Really Nazism

GAZZER

Extracts from Rachel Fosh Article-an article that tells it how it is.

I resigned for linking Nazism to Socialism... but it's true

Rachel Frosh resigned earlier this week for linking Nazism to Socialism, but here she makes the case that it remains very much a valid view

However, there is an accepted mainstream view that the origins of Nazism lie in Socialism, or that they have common roots. Nobel Prize winning economist Friedrich Hayek described this his book “The Road to Serfdom”. Even the Wikipedia entry says on the topic “Hayek challenged the general view among British academics that fascism was a capitalist reaction against socialism, instead arguing that fascism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning and the power of the state over the individual.”

The subtitle of the 1976 edition of The Road to Serfdom, is “A Classic Warning Against the Dangers to Freedom Inherent in Social Planning.” Hayek argued that socialism undermines human liberty and, if pursued far enough, must result in tyranny.

Other articles on the roots of Nazism and Hayek’s commentary are here, here, here and more on Hayek himself here.


I can understand why those on the left don’t wish to be branded in the same political mindset as the BNP. Now they know how those of us on the right feel. But the fact remains that BNP beliefs DO have more in common with Socialism than with Conservatism – centralised command control, trade tariffs, state owned businesses … I could go on. I struggle to think of a single issue which joins the BNP and mainstream conservatism. The Nazis were called National Socialists for a reason. Fascism is invariably described as a creed of the right. It isn’t. As with the BNP, fascism has far more in common with the left, at least in political theoretical terms.

My considered view is that the origins of Nazism do lie in traditional socialism, and when the BNP do well, it is with disaffected Labour voters.


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Labour is trying to wipe you English out-do you really want to support this fascist regime...

On 23 October 2009, Andrew Neather, a former government advisor to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett, dropped this revelatory bombshell in The Evening Standard:


“THE DELIBERATE POLICY OF MINISTERS FROM LATE 2000 UNTIL AT LEAST FEBRUARY LAST YEAR… WAS TO OPEN UP THE UK TO MASS MIGRATION…

MASS IMMIGRATION WAS THE WAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS GOING TO MAKE THE UK TRULY MULTICULTURAL... THE POLICY WAS INTENDED… TO RUB THE RIGHT'S NOSE IN DIVERSITY…

THERE WAS A RELUCTANCE... IN GOVERNMENT TO DISCUSS WHAT INCREASED IMMIGRATION WOULD MEAN, ABOVE ALL FOR LABOUR'S CORE WHITE WORKING-CLASS VOTE. This shone through even in the published report: THE ‘SOCIAL OUTCOMES’ IT TALKS ABOUT ARE SOLELY THOSE FOR IMMIGRANTS…

The results were dramatic. In 1995, 55,000 FOREIGNERS WERE GRANTED THE RIGHT TO SETTLE IN THE UK. BY 2005 THAT HAD RISEN TO 179,000... In addition, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MIGRANTS HAVE COME FROM THE NEW EU MEMBER STATES SINCE 2004, MOST REQUIRING NEITHER VISAS NOR PERMISSION TO WORK OR SETTLE… THE GOVERNMENT HAD CREATED ITS LONGED-FOR IMMIGRATION BOOM”.
You might think- from the astounding revelations cited above that Andrew Neather is a whistleblower. Far from it- as the title of his essay, Don't listen to the whingers, London needs immigrants suggests, he is still four square behind New Labour's imposition of the Multicult upon a bewildered and disenfranchised  dwindling majority.
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You're tempting me to post gazzer.  In my view, socialism as we know it is not akin to Nazism but I do take some of your points.

Recently I was chatting to a friend who has left wing views.  He stated all the things he despised about our society, then with a grin said, "so you know what that makes me?"

The thing is, of course he's not a Nazi but an ordinary working class man.
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Well so am I a working class man, yet I have been called racist homophobic islamaphobic and a far right wing nutter blah blah.

Yet I have grafted all my life-I believe in a lot of things I consider myself neither far left or far right or in the centre-I just consider my views sensible, honest and true to myself- and I wont have anyone forcing there perverted ideologies on me-even if it be trying to pretend Homosexuality is normal or the need to slaughter our badger population because of some old medical bollox.

Some stuff you know in your gut just aint right-I believe in the doctrine of "LIVE AND LET LIVE" insomuch that I want to live my life without being forced to bow to minority perversions or social engeneering projects-the constant attacks on people like me (and we are millions) will result in a strong response

I am a free man and will defend my right to quietly live my life that way-Nazism is without any doubt akin to Labours brand of socialism-remember it was working class people that installed the machinery of the Holocaust-being working class is no excuse for anything.

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The Labour candidate in the crucial Eastleigh by-election said he wished Margaret Thatcher had been murdered in the IRA attack on Brighton’s Grand Hotel.

Left-winger John O’Farrell felt  a ‘surge of excitement’ when he heard of the attempted assassination in 1984 and was ‘disappointed’ the terrorists failed.

He asked himself repeatedly: ‘Why did she have to leave the bathroom two minutes earlier?’ The bathroom of Lady Thatcher’s suite was wrecked in the explosion. She had been in it shortly before the bomb went off.


Five people died in the bomb attack, including Tory MP Sir Anthony Berry and Roberta Wakeham, wife of Tory Cabinet Minister Lord Wakeham.

Lord Tebbit told The Mail on Sunday: ‘Ed Miliband should repudiate this incontinently voiced moral reprobate who  tries to excuse murder as a weapon against those who won democratic elections time after time against the rag-bag remnants of a once great  Labour Party.’

Mr O’Farrell also  said he wished Lady Thatcher had lost the Falklands War in 1982,  in which 255 British servicemen died.  ‘I settle on the uncomfortable and convoluted position of wanting Great Britain  to lose the war for the good of Great Britain.  I was against the war, against people’s reaction to the war, even against the outcome of the war.’


This is the real stuff Labour supporters like-"if you don't do what I say we will kill you" should be on their manifesto.
If you try to cure evil with evil-you will add more pain to your fate.