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Big day tomorrow

Tom Merton
Start of the Rugby World Cup 2015.  Good luck the England lads.
If it must always be better, it can never be good enough.
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Re: Big day tomorrow

Percy.
Elitist public school boy game.
“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.”




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Romfordian
Don't care they don't snivel that they are mortally wounded with a cut finger Like over paid footballers
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Re: Big day tomorrow

Tom Merton
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That's crap Percy.  I have an RFU  juniors coaching badge and won an Essex festival competition ( among other things) in the  mid 90s with a very working class Barking RFU under 10s team.
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Tom Merton
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Agreed Romfordian.  Spot on.
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Percy.
70% of the England team are ex public school .Comprehensives do not play it.That is the picture and unless they change fundamentally will not exist in 20 years.
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Tom Merton
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Rugby union is flourashing in working class areas like Barking RFU in Gale Street and Romford and Gidea Park RFU in Crow Lane  Not to mention various other places.  The England captain and many others are not ex public school boy's,  you're wrong again, just like you were on the Privy council argument.  Name the 70% of the current England  squad that went to public schools.  Go on, do it now.
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Tom Merton
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Good point Ho-Hum.
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Percy.
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http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-06-20/majority-of-rugby-union-players-went-to-private-school/
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Tom Merton
You didn't answer my question.  You said 70% of the England rugby team went to private schools, name them.
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Percy.
ENGLAND

15. Ben Foden (Bromsgrove School – public school)

14. Chris Ashton (St John Fisher Catholic, Wigan – state school).

13. Manu Tuilagi (John Cleveland College – state school)

13. Brad Barritt (Kearsney College, SA – public school)

11. David Strettle (Lymm High School – state school)

10. Owen Farrell (St George’s School, Harpenden – public school)

9. Ben Youngs (Gresham’s School – public school)

1. Alex Corbisiero (Hall School, Wimbledon – public school)

2. Dylan Hartley (Rotorua Boys School – boys only state school).

3. Dan Cole (Kibworth High School) – state school

4. Geoff Parling (Ian Ramsey Church of England school – state school)

5. Tom Palmer (Otago Boys High School – boys only state school)

6. Tom Croft (Park House School – state school)

7. Chris Robshaw (Millfield – public school)

8. Ben Morgan (Katharine Lady Berkeley's School – state school)
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Tom Merton
Eight of the players you listed are not in the England squad, five went to non-public schools.  You still haven't answered my question, name the 70% of the England team that went to private school.  Please do it now.
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Percy.
That was 2012 I was highlighting that the situation has got worse since then and now include this comment 21 out of 31 in the england squad this year went to fee paying schools.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-3214080/England-Rugby-World-Cup-squad-includes-10-players-state-schools-player-went-expensive-school.html
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Tom Merton
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Why mention the 2012 team!!!  Of the current squad 10 went to free schools whilst many others went on to a sports scholorship (not the same as fee paying students) this does not equal 70%.
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Percy.
21 out of 31 does plus others went to single sex schools and how many Black or asian faces do you see in the team certainly not 10%.
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Tom Merton
What the fcuk has black or Asian people got to do with it?  The Jersey is based on merit.
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Percy.
It demonstrates that rugby is an elitest middle class sport it has support in the north where most of the non fee paying players come from but if you were a black kid from a comprehensive in Lewisham your chance of playing for England at the Six nations is less than winning the lottery.Merit it may be but merit from a very small elitest group.
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Tom Merton
There are or 5 or 6 non white players in the elite England squad, not bad out of the 15 first team.
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